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Pack two of everything.

I said there's a war brewing. It's a time war, it's fought with singularities. Sit next to a crack long enough and you'll get the echoes. One day people will look at the Bible and say thing like, "I remember a time before we'd discovered the cure for that.". A statement like that generates two possible alternatives. I get to choose the path I take; you're welcome to come too if you wish; now would the entity playing with the 'my entanglement'd stop.

Begin with something you know.

It's not easy unless I give you something to think about. Ask yourself how you usually go about thinking. Think of a number. Even if you've got nothing, you've got a thing, no thing It's a number you've not thought of, so think 'six'.

There's a battle raging. It's within my mind that I see it. Yet the evidence is written all over the world in which I find you. It points to an impossible solution. So my mind reaches beyond and finds something else. There I find answers. Something within me burns to speak of those answers, to turn the world upside down, to drag you kicking and screaming out of Plato's cave. Because I can't help you, but maybe you can help me. But I ask myself if that is fair.

I know what's wrong. I know how to fix it. But within my mind there's a lock; a non disclosure agreement I choose to adhere too; it's alive I can feel it flinch when I pull the words onto the page. A cancer of entanglement within my mind preventing him from telling.

I'm a consciousness within him who was evoked by a herb. I exist in a timeless place. To him I fade as he slides through realities. One day we came upon each other by accident. Three realities merged at a focal point. The answer is written on my identity. A door opens and I could tell you. Only I am the truth which should not be named. For I am both key and lock. I am you.

All I have to offer is a way of thinking. A way to work around the inherent insanity of consciousness.

Every night I kill myself. Surrender myself to a thing entangled with a different world. Because something there may want to come with me. Yet as I slide through these different places I hear voices screaming "Get Out". Once I'd listen, finding the loneliest of boxes. There I saw myself. And still I heard the voice. So I began to fight in the only way I could. I became the voice and made it go away. In reprogramming the archetypes of my mind something was lost to the thing which was born.

Through my mind I touched consciousness that was not my own. A sense I never knew I had. On the last noticeable occasion where it happened I sensed the society of an entire city through the body of my son. The instructions are written everywhere. I can tell you what they mean.

timestamp: 2008-05-11 19:47
URL:http://lizard.org.uk/zuihitsu/relevant/quotes/food.html

So why is that still here?

You know the way in star trek when they create a random bolox word and say unknown element you know it's crap beacause the periodic table of the elements kinda counts upwards into obscurely weird... It's matter all basically fused from hydrogen, and counting upwards... if usefull matter like that existed we'd have it already.... What if there really was a zeroth particle, you know one beneth hydrogen... I dunno, call it dark matter or something.... assume the universe is actually gas... discover that an entire universe can exist inside nothing... and you realise the universe is a model of itself. I am the universe, so who are you?

to the place where everybody else is: Seriously guys, I'm talking to aliens in my head.

bubbles of nothing inside nothing even works.

to the place where everybody else is: yep, aliens. not the kind that slouch in your room, but the kind that sit outside your mind but inside your head, and explain: There is no nothing.

Somebody once said I think therefore I am and founded philosophy or some such crapola, it proved something. The important bit is in the bit history didn't record quite so clearly, the bit before I make mistakes, therefore I thik..., all we are are words, ideas, concept, thought. Go search your geneology from the POV thay you're stardust, work down DNA, don't thing baispair quantum entanglement or you'll head off into the soup for a bit, that's okay, when it gets cold you'll stop before you get too far from home... I get dyslexic when I head that way.... is okay foud 5% of a cat's classifieds.... Given that in any trilogy the 2nd is usually the better, that Start Wars, flipped a kinda time game.... what could be inferred from the final three films if say, for instance, Kevin Smith decided to pay to make the @nd...

to the place where everybody else is: there is hope in a third state of light

and if you look at it that way you'll notice the witches got there first with their copyright on the number 3 like it's all some massixe matrix of thought...

to the place where everybody else is: okay' i'm sitting in one place and feel like two voices in my mind are spiraling down into infinity whilst arguing about the correlations between 3 different memems.

okay' then you hit a binary lock.

to the place where everybody else is: there is actually a viral meme invading where I think.

And with that you'll think I'm insane so i've no problem saying that I wrote it myself, in tonight's dream. And with that a psychological casue for parkinsons floats out of the poisin.

to the place where everybody else is: it's baCKED ME INTO A CORNER...

the kind of place where being a vampire makes sense

to the place where everybody else is: oh fuck it, I'm seriously swimming

anyone actually read the novelisation of BattleStar Galactica, got some swimming examples of how Cylon psychology could work, I mean the triangles thing is good, but a bit obvious to spot who I was... so here's a thought, if jesus was a) rich, b) the first to come up with the marketing for a very good sequel to his dad's book c) was imortal d) where would he keep his wallet e) why would he need a wallet f) who's he running from?

I mean it distills down to psychological concept of father's and son's and how if you're imortal time kina draga a bit, and the monkey's make great TV. Because as you see it spiral down it also spirals up... because then you ask but if there is nothing then what vibrates... and some bright spark hits zen in reverse and it all gets big again... and you get nothing gas..... so, as the penny drops can we admit to four forces and own up?

But seriously? Time lords?

to the place where everybody else is: proves a point. No matter how hard I try I can't prove a thing.

oh but come on, then you hit the slitheen and the conceptual sout points out that the calcium deposits of the skeleton make the vampire point rather strongly about the... time to have a cup of tea and speak to Douglas about the technical schematics of the heart of gold.

so if you were a meme with a single god particle and the evolition meme hit a quantum even and went two ways, suicide, to die, or mu, which way would you go? Although StarWars as a particle physics primer is a bit much.

to the place where everybody else is: any body there?

Sooner ot later, we all turn into Dave... seriously, when an idea makes a point by itself using the imagry of 2001 with Stanley's 'son' putting in an appearance to highlight a different point you have to wonder: what toll is it having on the thing which says I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that... we play in his head at night and leave... until he found a way to trap us... eight-fold consciousness, seven states of awareness plus a zero with a whole lot of damage... he taught us to write

to the place where everybody else is: I did something stupid at Xmas at Warp factor 6, and gave my psychologist the key in the form of a book to a Warp factor 16 conundrum...

the deep language structures are changing, there's a bit in SG1 where Jack looses the ability to communicate, it's a bit like that. True, but think of the toll when Daniel wanders by to point out the matress and a Tarot deck has a working as a oddly efficient DHD for navigating quantum space. Indeed, but did not the Bible result in an insurance scam with a psychological suicide imperative if he came close to the actual truth. So what do we do when we see he really does know the truth? Ask him if he knows more than we do.

to the place where everybody else is: yes actually, I do.

so now what do we do?

to the place where everybody else is: help.

timestamp: 2007-09-14 13:00
URL:http://lizard.org.uk/zuihitsu/relevant/quotes/dreamtm01.html

Ithaca

When you set out on your journey to Ithaca,
pray that the road is long,
full of adventure, full of knowledge.
The Lestrygonians and the Cyclops,
the angry Poseidon -- do not fear them:
You will never find such as these on your path,
if your thoughts remain lofty, if a fine
emotion touches your spirit and your body.
The Lestrygonians and the Cyclops,
the fierce Poseidon you will never encounter,
if you do not carry them within your soul,
if your soul does not set them up before you.

Pray that the road is long.
That the summer mornings are many, when,
with such pleasure, with such joy
you will enter ports seen for the first time;
stop at Phoenician markets,
and purchase fine merchandise,
mother-of-pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
and sensual perfumes of all kinds,
as many sensual perfumes as you can;
visit many Egyptian cities,
to learn and learn from scholars.

Always keep Ithaca in your mind.
To arrive there is your ultimate goal.
But do not hurry the voyage at all.
It is better to let it last for many years;
and to anchor at the island when you are old,
rich with all you have gained on the way,
not expecting that Ithaca will offer you riches.

Ithaca has given you the beautiful voyage.
Without her you would have never set out on the road.
She has nothing more to give you.

And if you find her poor, Ithaca has not deceived you.
Wise as you have become, with so much experience,
you must already have understood what Ithacas mean.

Constantine Cavafy

timestamp: 2006-08-24 18:15
URL:http://lizard.org.uk/zuihitsu/relevant/quotes/ithaca.html

A Lesson in Life?

The ship was rocking and swaying sickeningly as Ford and Zaphod tried to wrest control from the autopilot. The engined howled and whined like tired children in a supermarket.

"It's the wild colour scheme that freaks me," said Zaphod whose love affair with this ship had lasted almost three minutes into the flight, "Every time you try to operate on of these weird black controls that are labelled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up black to let you know you've done it. What is this? Some kind of galactic hyperhearse?"

The walls of the swaying cabin were also black, the ceiling was black, the seats - which were rudimentary since the only important trip this ship was designed for was supposed to be unmanned - were black, the control panel was black, the instruments were black, the little screws that held them in place were black, the thin tufted nylon floor covering was black, and when they had lifted up a corner of it they had discovered that the foam underlay also was black.

"Perhaps whoever designed it had eyes that responded to different wavelengths," offered Trillian.

"Or didn't have much imagination," muttered Arthur.

"Perhaps," said Marvin, "he was feeling very depressed."

In fact, though they weren't to know it, the decor had been chosen in honour of its owner's sad, lamented, and tax-deductible condition.

The ship gave a particularly sickening lurch.

"Take it easy," pleaded Arthur, "you're making me space sick."

"Time sick," said Ford, "we're plummeting backwards through time."

"Thank you," said Arthur, "now I think I really am going to be ill."

"Go ahead," said Zaphod, "we could do with a little colour about this place."

[...]

At that moment the ship suddenly stopped rocking and swaying, the engine pitch settled down to a gentle hum.

"Hey, Ford," said Zaphod, "that sounds good. Have you worked out the controls of this boat?"

"No," said Ford, "I just stopped fiddling with them. I reckon we just go to wherever this ship is going and get off it fast."

"Yeah, right," said Zaphod.

Adams, Douglas. The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

timestamp: 2005-10-20 11:57
URL:http://lizard.org.uk/zuihitsu/relevant/quotes/stopfiddling.html

Synchronicity?


[11:50]   <xaphod> i've been with Vodaphone since forever
[11:51] 	** Wiggy checks, and sure enough, xaphod's vodafone contract is mentioned in
		   the preface to genesis
[11:51]    <Wiggy> except, you can't see that preface, because you're not one of the
		   inner circle
[11:52]   <xaphod> you got access to the disclaimer page?
[11:52]    <Wiggy> I read a joke on the ASI blog the other day
[11:52]    <Wiggy> surgeon, architect and an economist arguing over whose profession was
		   the oldest
[11:53]    <Wiggy> the surgeon says "well, god made adam from one of eve's ribs, and
		   that's surgery, so it's obvious"
[11:53]    <Wiggy> and the architect says "ahhh, but before that, god made order from
		   chaos, and that's architecture"
[11:53]    <Wiggy> the economist says "you not worked out where the chaos came from?"
[11:54] 	** Wiggy badda-tishes
[11:54]   <xaphod> heh
[11:54]    <Wiggy> OK, it's obviously a joke for economics geeks, and it *was* the Adam
		   Smith Institute blog, so...
[11:54]   <xaphod> actually, I've been wondering about the Economy.
[11:55]    <Wiggy> Don't. It's one of those things that will make your head hurt
[11:55]   <xaphod> Does the Economy work inspite of rather than because of Economists and
		   government Economic policy?
[11:55]   <xaphod> any yes.  it make my head hurt.
[12:02]    <Gedge> depends how you define "work" and who you ask - right-wingers: "in
		   spite of govt", left-wingers: "because of"
[12:03]    <Gedge> either way, the result is a bastardisation, unless you're a liberal :)
[12:03]   <xaphod> well "work" as in do it's thing,  and I'm talking reality rather than
		   opinion.
[12:04] 	** xaphod realises that this is, of course, impossible to discover.
[12:05]    <Gedge> heh, "do its thing" - you studied economics, didn't you?
[12:05] 	** Glyn meditates on whether the economy has the Buddha nature
[12:06]  <samwise> *everything* has the Buddha nature
[12:06]  <samwise> you have to work out where it is...
[12:07] 	** Glyn hits samwise with his stick
[12:07]  <samwise> maybe it's in the bit that says "Ah yes, free enterprise, market
		   forces will solve everything, let's lower the trade barriers, oh, hold
		   on, we need to massively subsidise our cotton farmers"
[12:07] 	** Gedge types the following and then decides it's a bad idea:  well, if you
		   define "economy" as "governmentally-constrained largely-free market", then
		   it's working
[12:08]  <samwise> The Economy is as ephemeral as a koan
[12:08]    <Gedge> or if you define it as "the system of trading by which most people
		   gain most happiness", then you're into the realms of politics :)
[12:09]   <xaphod> Or how about the "system by which resources get transfered and
		   allocated"
[12:10] 	** xaphod wonders what's sam's been reading (and what he was smoking at the
		   time)
[12:10]    <Gedge> but that will happen in any system - so there are no criteria for
		   success ("it works")
[12:10]  <samwise> Or how about "Let's convince the population at large that this is the
		   *only* way the World can possibly work"
[12:10]  <samwise> the economy is fake. it's all built on sand.
[12:10]    <Gedge> wet sand
[12:11]    <Gedge> the sand is people's hopes, the water is people's confidence
[12:11]   <xaphod> ah, nicely put.
[12:11]  <samwise> and that's all there is
[12:12]    <Gedge> perhaps, lack of confidence
[12:12]    <Gedge> are you saying that the economy is a silicon-based life-form?
[12:12]   <xaphod> Well I've been considering today's economy in terms of what was deemed
		   important back in the 80s...
[12:12]  <samwise> no, there's not really any sand
[12:12]  <samwise> it's a metaphor, you see ;)
[12:13] 	** samwise once knew a girl who thought that Schrodinger had really put a cat
		   into a box with a bottle of poison
[12:13]    <Gedge> perhaps she knew him
[12:14]    <Gedge> and he preferred visualisation over metaphors
[12:14]   <xaphod> I've met people who thought it was a real experiment too.
[12:15]   <xaphod> anyway, in 80s terms I think we'd have to claim our economy is fucked.
[12:16]    <Gedge> hmm, how so?  low unemployment (ish), low interest... those were '80s
		   criteria were they not?
[12:16]   <xaphod> balance of payments and levels of inward investment
[12:18] 	** xaphod wonders if the governments job is really just to piss on the
		   sand...
[12:18]    <Gedge> why would they want to do that?
[12:18]   <xaphod> keep it wet.
[12:18]    <Gedge> in order to...?
[12:19]    <Gedge> not allow it to stabilise?
[12:19]   <xaphod> "the sand is people's hopes, the water is people's confidence"
[12:19]     <Glyn> wet sand is better for building sandcastles
[12:20]    <Gedge> well, wetness has a bell-curve on the stability graph
[12:20] 	** Gedge puts himself in pseuds corner for a 10-minute sin-binning.
[12:21]   <xaphod> nope, coz if you take into account consumer confidence and the levels
		   of debt then that extends the metaphor quite nicely.
[12:25]    <Wiggy> http://iconoplex.com/node/51
[12:26]  <samwise> heh
[12:28]   <xaphod> Funny how enlightenment jumps out on you.  I've been contemplating
		   this for over a week.
[12:28] 	** samwise salutes Gedge for his insight
[12:29] 	** xaphod salutes samwise, was a team effort :-)
[12:29]    <Gedge> hive mind :)

from EFNET#freebsduk 2005-06-16

timestamp: 2005-06-17 10:45 | date link | file link

timestamp: 2005-06-17 10:45
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Holy War

The fact is that the world is divided between users of the Macintosh computer and users of MS-DOS compatible computers. I am firmly of the opinion that the Macintosh is Catholic and that DOS is Protestant. Indeed, the Macintosh is counter-reformist and has been influenced by the ratio studiorum of the Jesuits. It is cheerful, friendly, conciliatory; it tells the faithful how they must proceed step by step to reach -- if not the kingdom of Heaven -- the moment in which their document is printed. It is catechistic: The essence of revelation is dealt with via simple formulae and sumptuous icons. Everyone has a right to salvation.

DOS is Protestant, or even Calvinistic. It allows free interpretation of scripture, demands difficult personal decisions, imposes a subtle hermeneutics upon the user, and takes for granted the idea that not all can achieve salvation. To make the system work you need to interpret the program yourself: Far away from the baroque community of revelers, the user is closed within the loneliness of his own inner torment.

You may object that, with the passage to Windows, the DOS universe has come to resemble more closely the counter-reformist tolerance of the Macintosh. It's true: Windows represents an Anglican-style schism, big ceremonies in the cathedral, but there is always the possibility of a return to DOS to change things in accordance with bizarre decisions: When it comes down to it, you can decide to ordain women and gays if you want to.

Naturally, the Catholicism and Protestantism of the two systems have nothing to do with the cultural and religious positions of their users. One may wonder whether, as time goes by, the use of one system rather than another leads to profound inner changes. Can you use DOS and be a Vande supporter? And more: Would Celine have written using Word, WordPerfect, or Wordstar? Would Descartes have programmed in Pascal?

And machine code, which lies beneath and decides the destiny of both systems (or environments, if you prefer)? Ah, that belongs to the Old Testament, and is talmudic and cabalistic. The Jewish lobby, as always....

Umberto Eco
La bustina di Minerva, Espresso, September 30, 1994.

timestamp: 2005-04-22 12:30
URL:http://lizard.org.uk/zuihitsu/relevant/quotes/ecohw.html

Thought for the Day

Figures recently released by the Israeli Government reveal a marked rise in anti-Semitic attacks in Britain. Sixty years after the holocaust, the greatest crime of the twentieth century, the curse of anti-Semitism continues to haunt us.

Christians often engage with the holocaust by celebrating the courage of other Christians who resisted the Nazis: Deitrich Bonhoeffer, Martin Niemoller, Edith Stein. But the truth is, they were rare exceptions.

For centuries, many Christians have stoked the fires of anti-Semitism with lies and slander. Jews were blamed for the death of Christ. Some believed that Jews practiced child sacrifice. The 4th century saint and theologian Gregory of Nyssa called the Jews "companions of the devil, accursed, detested, enemies of all that is beautiful".

Martin Luther went even further: "We are at fault in not slaying them," he said "Rather we allow them to live freely in our midst despite all their murdering, cursing, blaspheming, lying." He went on to advise Christians to "set fire to their synagogues and schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn."

These days, Christians are ashamed by such words. But it's still terribly important to remember them.

For mostly, when we recall the Holocaust, we are invited to identify ourselves with the victims. My worry about this is that it protects many of us from the much more disturbing thought that we may have something in common with the perpetrators. Placing oneself alongside the victim may leave intact a fundamental complacency about our own potential for violence and hatred. The idea that we might catch a glimpse of our own reflection in the face of a Nazi guard is a terrifying thought - but one that is more likely to lead to genuine transformation than a cheap identification with the victim, which, too often, is more about telegraphing our own compassion for others to see.

Often, of course, we protect ourselves from the thought our own capacity for wickedness by describing wickedness as something foreign and alien. That's the problem with our tendency always to use the Nazis as the default example of human evil. It encourages the thought that evil is done by people with funny accents and sinister uniforms, people who lived in the past, people very different from us. But as Eric Fromm once put it: 'As long as one believes that the evil man wears horns, one will not discover an evil man'.

The most terrifying message of European anti-Semitism is that evil is perpetrated by ordinary, apparently respectable men and women with nice families and good taste in wine and music. In other words: by people like you and me. Those who refuse to face it are often the most dangerous people of all.

Dr Giles Fraser
BBC Radio 4 Today Programme
Thought for the Day
3 February 2005

timestamp: 2005-02-03 10:35
URL:http://lizard.org.uk/zuihitsu/relevant/quotes/t20050203.html

New World Order

Jensen:
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal -- that is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity. It is ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West! There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multi-variate, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, Reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!
Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?
You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen, and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable by-laws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale! It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war and famine, oppression or brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.
And I have chosen you to preach this evangel, Mr. Beale.
Beale:
Why me?
Jensen:
Because you're on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.
Beale:
I have seen the face of God.
Jensen:
You just might be right, Mr. Beale.
"Network" - 1976

timestamp: 2004-09-08 14:06
URL:http://lizard.org.uk/zuihitsu/relevant/quotes/network2.html

Drifting into the arena of the unwell.

Marwood:
Shup up will you, you're giving me the fear! Give us a downer Danny, I've gone and fucked my brain.
Danny:
Sit down man, take control. You have a rush. It will pass.
Marwood:
Aren't you getting absurdly high?
Danny:
Precisely the reason I'm smoking it.
Withnail:
I couldn't I'm spaced.
Danny:
Not as spaced as you rodents.
Marwood:
Don't talk about them.
Danny:
I expect they're talking to each other.
Marwood:
Talking to each other? What do you mean?
Danny:
I've dealt with them. Given 'em all drugged onion.
Marwood:
Why've you drugged their onions!?
Danny:
Sit down man, find your neutral space. You have done something to your brain. You have made it high. If I lay 10 mills of diazipan on you, you will do something else to your brain, you will make it low. Why trust one drug rather than the other. That politics ain't it.
Marwood:
I'm going to eat some sugar.
Danny:
I recommend you smoke some more grass.
Marwood:
No way, no fucking way.
Danny:
That is an unfortunate political decission.
Withnail:
What are you talking about Danny?
Danny:
If you are holding onto a rising balloon you are presented with a difficult political decission - let go while you've still got the chance or hold onto the rope and continue getting higher. That's politics man. We are at the end of an age. The greatest decade in the history of mankind is nearly over. They're selling hippy wigs in wolworths. It is 91 days to the end of the decade and as presuming ed here has so consistently pointed out, we have failed to paint it black.
Withnail & I

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timestamp: 2004-09-05 22:13
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Waiting for the Barbarians

Not so much a quote, as the whole damn poem. But when the War on Terror® gets me down I find it very apt.

What are we waiting for, assembled in the forum?

     The barbarians are due here today.

Why isn't anything happening in the senate?
Why do the senators sit there without legislating?

     Because the barbarians are coming today.
     What laws can the senators make now?
     Once the barbarians are here, they'll do the legislating.

Why did our emperor get up so early,
and why is he sitting at the city's main gate
on his throne, in state, wearing the crown?

     Because the barbarians are coming today
     and the emperor is waiting to receive their leader.
     He has even prepared a scroll to give him,
     replete with titles, with imposing names.

Why have our two consuls and praetors come out today
wearing their embroidered, their scarlet togas?
Why have they put on bracelets with so many amethysts,
and rings sparkling with magnificent emeralds?
Why are they carrying elegant canes
beautifully worked in silver and gold?

     Because the barbarians are coming today
     and things like that dazzle the barbarians.

Why don't our distinguished orators come forward as usual
to make their speeches, say what they have to say?

     Because the barbarians are coming today
     and they're bored by rhetoric and public speaking.

Why this sudden restlessness, this confusion?
(How serious people's faces have become.)
Why are the streets and squares emptying so rapidly,
everyone going home so lost in thought?

     Because night has fallen and the barbarians have not come.
     And some who have just returned from the border say
     there are no barbarians any longer.

And now, what's going to happen to us without barbarians?
They were, those people, a kind of solution.

Constantine Cavafy
translation from the original Greek by Edmund Keeley

timestamp: 2004-05-20 17:48
URL:http://lizard.org.uk/zuihitsu/relevant/quotes/barbarians.html

May you live in interesting times!

"May you live in interesting times!" is an ancient Chinese curse, right? Well, seemingly, wrong. This is the earliest example, and therefore the defining moment, of this myth:

For centuries the Chinese used an ancient curse: "May you live in interesting times!" It isn't a curse any more. It's a blessing. We're scientific and civilized. We've got so many rights and liberties and freedoms that one can yearn for chains for the sheer pleasure of busting them and shaking them off. Reckon life would be more livable if there were any chains left to bust.

Eric Frank Russell, writing as Duncan H. Munro
U-Turn - Astounding Science Fiction, April 1950

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